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Kite Trim

Postby Julez » 16 Jun 2017, 08:40

After flying my kite sheeted all the way in - even having checked line lengths I was shown how to tune your kite to its best potential.

I was under the impression that kites that flew on equal line length 4 line bars would do so but now realise just an inch difference in line length can make a huge difference. Rather than just check the length of your lines, use visual clues from how the kite is flying.

In trying to understand more about this I came across the following .

http://www.progression.me/blog/dont-bla ... le-tuning/

PS thanks to Richie for noticing and assisting.

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Re: Kite Trim

Postby blast » 16 Jun 2017, 11:14

True, however if you have a new kite with a bar made for that kite then this doesn't apply. If you buy a bar that is not designed for the kite then you will more than likely have to adjust accordingly, I'm guessing you don't have a F1 bar on your kite?

However even with a bar made to match a kite after many hours flying, the lines can stretch and obviously need to be adjusted.

It's one of the reasons the Epic have quite an extra bit of line past the last knots on the steering lines allowing you to adjust them, they also have extra knots just above the leader lines.
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Re: Kite Trim

Postby Julez » 16 Jun 2017, 13:18

Thanks Marc,

I use a Smart Bar as it has a lot of adjustment and can accommodate a wide range of kite sizes.

I check for stretch regularly. However the back lines were obviously too slack.

The Bandit has no pig tail knots on back lines..not sure why.. luckily the Smart bar does do I adjusted on that.

The immediate result was more power, better steering and better upwind. Richie thought back lines still need around another inch so I'll test that next time.

Thought I'd post it as it caught me out. Not dangerous just getting the best out of a kite.

Cheers.

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Re: Kite Trim

Postby Julez » 16 Jun 2017, 20:44

This guy always seems to have a knack of communicating in a simple yet effective way.

Shows how you can alter the length of both power lines and back lines to adjust kite trim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2PteZVWbeU

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Re: Kite Trim

Postby blast » 16 Jun 2017, 21:47

Has that's what I was on about, the ability to add the extra knots etc etc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2PteZVWbeU


Ps he's still crazy
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Re: Kite Trim

Postby Julez » 17 Jun 2017, 10:21

Thanks for embedding the YouTube clip better Marc. My forum skills are pretty poor.

That's why I like Airush Bars. Masses of leader and rear line trim options if your kite hasn't got them.

A good learning curve for me. I'll pay more attention to my kite now.

I hope this isn't a "sucking eggs" topic for all. I've benefitted so thanks for the feedback.

J

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Re: Kite Trim

Postby blast » 17 Jun 2017, 11:28

Julez wrote:Thanks for embedding the YouTube clip better Marc. My forum skills are pretty poor.

That's why I like Airush Bars. Masses of leader and rear line trim options if your kite hasn't got them.

A good learning curve for me. I'll pay more attention to my kite now.

I hope this isn't a "sucking eggs" topic for all. I've benefitted so thanks for the feedback.

J



Not at all, we all forget to check the kites as much as we should, however the longer you've been kiting the quicker you realise something just isn't right!!

Personally I prefer to do the alterations if needed on the kite lines though especially if your using the same bar on several size kites otherwise it gets hard to remember which setting is needed on each kite...on your lines.
That's why these type of video's have been put out there.

Here's another from the D'man worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo6PX81LvR0


I'm meant to be going to join him in Greece next month but don't think I can make it with lessons/business etc :cry:
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Re: Kite Trim

Postby Julez » 17 Jun 2017, 12:55

I found exactly what the D'man was saying about leader lines. One was about.5" longer than the other .. luckily not on the safety line side so I just put another knot in and now equal.

I just assumed that lines would stretch equally..not the case !

I also lengthened the leaders via a knot system on the Smart bar which has same effect as shortening the steerer as ran out of knots on the steerer lines.

It's good to go through all this to fully understand how these line lengths affect the kites angle of attack.

Once again..thanks.

Jules


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